tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2419749276972728688.post6742398140703431488..comments2024-03-29T22:04:38.476+13:00Comments on MAD BUSH FARM: Legalise tiger trade to save species, economist urges or did he really say that?Lizhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05100812038496671783noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2419749276972728688.post-59817367982574581292009-05-02T21:34:00.000+12:002009-05-02T21:34:00.000+12:00To add to my reply to your comment re your researc...To add to my reply to your comment re your research. Yes I can see where the Herald has gone horribly wrong on this. I'm reading the draft of your paper at the moment. And yes just a few lines about tiger farming but nothing about you suggesting it should be done! This needs to be cleared up.<br /><br />Thanks for your input on this<br /><br />Best regards<br />LizLizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05100812038496671783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2419749276972728688.post-960448344060849732009-05-02T20:57:00.000+12:002009-05-02T20:57:00.000+12:00Sounds to me like you really risked a heck of a lo...Sounds to me like you really risked a heck of a lot going into places no-one else would dare go into. It sounded very strange to me that someone would go around saying oh lets farm tigers! I sort of thought to myself there was no logic to someone encouraging the trade.<br /><br />I"ll have to track down your paper and read it. I'll put your comment on as well. You're right tigers are on the fast track to extinction. Global Tiger Patrol are doing their best to get conservation projects in place but while the demand for Tiger products is still there poaching will continue. Your comment is very much appreciated. Well said and thanks for clearing this up.<br /><br />All the best<br />LizLizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05100812038496671783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2419749276972728688.post-70278655011246028002009-05-02T20:35:00.000+12:002009-05-02T20:35:00.000+12:00A large part of the problem with this article is s...A large part of the problem with this article is simply, tiger farming isn't what the research about. I wrote two bloody lines about tiger farms in a paper that actually detailed the organisation of the black market in tiger products. That's what the research was about. <br /><br />Nothing to do with Keynesian economics, and a fair bit about me putting my arse on the line in smuggling hot-spots.<br /><br />The poaching problem is that it has many tiger populations on the fast-track to extinction. That hasn't changed in a long time.Chthoniidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14165239200717971937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2419749276972728688.post-82584144649926520262009-05-02T11:22:00.000+12:002009-05-02T11:22:00.000+12:00Hi Omer
Exactly it is ridiculous to apply any kin...Hi Omer<br /><br />Exactly it is ridiculous to apply any kind of Keynesian models to this real world situation. Tigers are as you and I well know ciritically endangered. That's one point. Secondly you're absolutely right. Why spend thousands on raising a tiger when you can just go and poach one. Demand will increase and the result as you quite rightly pointed out will be extinction in the wild. A bad theory and a bad move to even suggest this at all. I've got Economics Papers myself and seriously nothing really fits. In the models if we were talking about cattle or sheep then yes. They have been farmed for thousands of years. Crocodiles lay large clutches of eggs. Tigers don't lay eggs they have live cubs perhaps three at most. The numbers don't stack up.<br /><br />On the declawings at Zion. I strongly stand against that decision. I think they were declawed for entertainment. I want the best outcome for the animals at Zion. People can speak for themselves but the not the thirty Lions and Tigers who were condemned to a life of cruel and unspeakable pain. I hold Zion Wildlife Gardens responsible for this as a whole rather than individuals. That's how I look at things rather than blaming just one person. A former employee of Zion had put in a forum that it was Craig that had the "lions claws ripped out" I don't know if it was him or someone else that had it done. Either way it's inhumane and outright cruelty.<br /><br />Emerald is doing very well. I have to contact her vet on Monday and give her an update. Hopefully no more sticks and grass!<br /><br />On the George Adamson site. Yes I really enjoyed your article the guys that does the website was so thrilled that you had cared enough to write such a well researched article on that great man. To me George Adamson is the true Lion Man. If it wasn't for him rewilding projects would never have come about.<br /><br />So glad to hear from you again. I hope everything is well with your family and you.<br /><br />Purrs, love and hugs from me and the kitties here on the farm<br />LizLizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05100812038496671783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2419749276972728688.post-18182360342948325692009-05-02T10:25:00.000+12:002009-05-02T10:25:00.000+12:00Liz I've heard this argument before and I just wan...Liz I've heard this argument before and I just wanna say that in my opinion this is ridiculous. If we legalise and begin to actively promote and sponsor tiger farming then trust me all the tigers in India will be gone in a couple of years. There is absolutely no doubt about it.<br /><br />There are two reasons for it. One is that the demand for tiger products will increase exponentially.<br /><br />Secondly and more importantly - who in his right mind would spend hundreds of thousands of dollars in rearing up a tiger from a cub to adulthood for the farming business when they can just get a poached wild tiger and its parts for a fraction of that money. <br /><br />So in my opinion Dr Moyle is totally wrong and has a very skewed and shallow perception of the affair. Anyway I don't think he'll get his way either.<br /><br />How sad that so many big cats were declawed at Zion. Maybe that was to make them tamer for the show? If so then it's very tragic. I hope that whatever the outcome of this affair, in the end the cats benefit. <br /><br />Glad to see that Emerald is well now. Hope everybody all has been doing great too. Many many hugs and love to all.<br /><br />ps. How nice that the person working on George Adamson's website saw my article and liked it. Thank you for liking it too :) I wrote it a couple of years ago when I first saw 'Born Free' and researched about George on the internet. Again thanks for appreciating it and thanks as always for being such an animal lover and an advocate for wildlife.<br /><br />Take care :)snowforesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09192357775233064579noreply@blogger.com